United Airlines Passengers are losers according to Lufthansa

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Having to deal with constant strikes, delays, cancellations Lufthansa staff are now letting out frustration at United Airlines passengers.

“The Way the Earth Connects” according to Star Alliance

It was March 3, 2023 when the United Airlines Mileage Plus 3 million flyer and lifetime 1K passenger approached the Gold lane counter at Frankfurt International Airport. It was the Lufthansa/ Star Alliance Transit Counter in the international section of the airport, known as “Z” terminal.

The passenger was Juergen Steinmetz, publisher of eTurboNews.

Here is my story:

I just arrived at FRAPORT after a long connecting flight from Honolulu via San Francisco. I was facing a 5 hour wait in Frankfurt to connect on Lufthansa to Berlin, the last section of my journey.

I was looking forward attending the ITB trade show in the German capital, and my stay at the Grand Hyatt Berlin.

I arrived after experiencing United Airlines Polaris service, one of the best business class cabins on transatlantic flights.

When I noticed the long layover in Frankfurt just minuted before I boarded in Honolulu two days earlier, I asked the United agent to change it. She said it was a little late, and I should simply approach the Lufthansa transit counter before clearing immigration in Frankfurt. She added: “It should not be a problem.”

26 hours later in Frankfurt and a little tired, but in a good mood I approached the Lufthansa agent working at the Gold, First / Business Class lane at the transit counter in the international Z-terminal at FRAPORT.

I smiled and joked in German. “I am an old tired man arriving after two nights on a plane. Can you please help me to get on an earlier connecting flight to Berlin? “

Hoping for a smile back the agent lectured me (not smiling): “As you can see this is a Lufthansa transit counter, and not a United Airlines ticket office. We only assist our own passengers.”

I was stunned, and she added: “Since you are showing me a United Airlines boarding pass, you have to contact your airline for any changes. We cannot help you, we don’t even make money on your ticket.”

I was traveling on a paid revenue ticket by the way – not a mileage award.

I pleaded: “I am a 1K United Airlines customer what makes me Gold with Star Alliance and Lufthansa – similar to Lufthansa Honorary Circle. Would you at least take a look at my reservation? After all I am asking to change a Lufthansa segment and not a United flight.”

The agent seemed to be annoyed and said: “I don’t have to, because I see your United Airlines boarding pass. If you were a member of Miles and More and if you had a Lufthansa ticket we get revenue for, may be there was something I could do, but in this case I can’t.”

I could not believe this type of response and asked nicely: “May I have your name?”

The Lufthansa agent responded with a clear “No.”
She immediately covered her name tag.

I continued to ask: “May I talk to your supervisor.”
Lufthansa Agent: “I have no supervisor – I cannot help you any further.”

I walked away and approached an agent who was directing passengers wanting to approach the Z14 Lufthansa transit counter.

“Excuse me, who is the station manager or supervisor?” The agent responded in silence and in just pointing at the Lufthansa agent who was working the economy section of the same transit counter. He sat two empty chairs to the left of the frustrated agent I just dealt with.

Since there was also no one in line, I decided to give it another try. I approached the supervisor. He was reading the newspaper and felt troubled to be bothered by anyone.

At the same time the lady from the Gold line next to him whispered something into his hear. They both laughed at each other. After that and amused the agent told me without listening to my question. “As my colleague already told you, no one at this counter will help you or talk to you any further. Have a good day.”

I again asked for the agents name. This was again met with silence.

Wow! Perhaps I was still used to the Aloha spirit at home, but the journalist in me wanted to document what I just experienced. I took some photos after I walked away from the counter and sat down to make some notes.

Within a minute two Frankfurt Airport security officers followed by two German Federal Police officers with machine guns came running towards me.

They asked me to delete the photos I took from my phone.

I showed them my press credentials and explained I needed the photos for an article. The officer said any photos that would show a face cannot be taken, unless I have permission. He added I should know this as a journalist.

When asked again for the Lufthansa agents name, the business like and friendly police officer said he could not assist. Steinmetz handed his Phone to the officer who deleted some of the photos he found offending.

In the meantime the “real” Lufthansa supervisor joined the conversation. She was a pleasant lady trying to reason. She said the gentleman I talked to at the counter was not a supervisor, but she was. She offered to look at my ticket.

After all this I did not want to have anyone do me a favor.

I was disappointed about this treatment and wanted to tell the world about it. After all Germany is also my country of birth, and this is not good.

I decided to end this situation, cleared immigration and proceeded to the Lufthansa Senator lounge. I sat there for the next 4 hours watching other flights to Berlin depart.

Stranded in Malta

Just 4 months earlier I was stranded in Malta due to a Lufthansa strike. I had a full fare Lufthansa business class ticket for a flight Malta – Frankfurt- San Francisco. The only part on United Airlines was from San Francisco to Honolulu.

Stranded at Malta airport at 4.30 am on November 6 I was not allowed to contact the Lufthansa Senator line. I was told, this line was only for premium Lufthansa Miles and More members having a premium status, and not available to United Airlines passengers, regardless if they fly on Lufthansa or not. I was also told Business and First Class passengers on Lufthansa, unless they have a Status with Miles and More have no access to a separate priority phone number. At that time I was also told Star Alliance has no influence over access at airports, but I could visit the lounge.

This was after being on hold for several hours and ending up in a Philippine call center only to be told to go to the Lufthansa website.

When pulling up my itinerary on the Lufthansa website, it said: “Your reservation is cancelled, click here for alternatives. When clicking for alternatives it says, we don’t have alternatives and please contact the call center.”

I went back to my hotel and enjoyed two more days of Malta hospitality on my dime of course.

Even though United Airlines had little to do with my ticket, I decided to call the United Airlines 1K desk. They thanked me for my loyalty to United and resolved the issue within minutes. They re-booked me on a Swiss flight to Zurich and connecting to another Swiss flight to San Francisco.

After the Frankfurt incident, I also called the United Airlines 1K desk. United agents confirmed they don’t like to communicate with Lufthansa agents very much. Confidentially I was told about some horror stories confirming how rude and non cooperative Lufthansa agents had been even to United Airlines management for years.

I reached out to Lufthansa customer service, and to Lufthansa media relations. There was no response.

I also reached out to Star Alliance customer service and media relations, only to receive a generic email asking me to contact United Airlines Mileage Plus.

Judging from what I experienced, Lufthansa has by far more serious issues than constant ongoing work strikes, cancellations and delays. They employ frustrated associates who no longer care.

This can be a dangerous situation even for a company by the size of the Lufthansa group.

After all as Germany’s national airline with such a glamorous history has a higher responsibility. Lufthansa paints an image for the German people, the country and specifically for German hospitality that is counterproductive – and this becomes personal.

Spirit MUC and Spirit FRA:

According to a confidential source within Lufthansa Munich, a new initiative known as Spirit MUC and Spirit FRA is changing the attitude and it shows. It even started a small competition within LH airline associates in who has the better attitude. It can be hoped this can be kept up!

What happened to Star Alliance?

Star Alliance apparently is only based on perception, lounge access and interline baggage agreements. There is no action when it comes to situations like this.

Star Alliance slogan is: “The Way the Earth Connects”

Star Alliance is the world’s largest global airline alliance. Founded on 14 May, 1997, its headquarters are located in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, and Jeffrey Goh is its CEO.

As of April 2018, Star Alliance is the largest of the three global alliances by passenger count with 762.27 million, ahead of both SkyTeam (630 million) and Oneworld (528 million).

About the author

Juergen T Steinmetz

Juergen Thomas Steinmetz has continuously worked in the travel and tourism industry since he was a teenager in Germany (1977).
He founded eTurboNews in 1999 as the first online newsletter for the global travel tourism industry.

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Michael LeBreton

My whole life I had this high opinion of German organization and efficiency blown up with trip on Lufthansa through Frankfurt . I was shocked and still am . The reason I stumbled across your article is that my wife and I are planning another trip to Europe this fall . Since so many flights connect through Frankfurt I was hoping things improved but by the looks of reviews and articles it is still awful . Even at a higher cost it still worth avoiding these two like the plague .

Beth Brownstein

Sorry that was your experience. It’s not just Lufthansa, trust me – they all suck!

Greg

I agree Lufthansa agents weren’t helpful or courteous, it’s hurting business, and raising awareness is good but going from…

“The agent seemed to be annoyed and said: “I don’t have to, because I see your United Airlines boarding pass. If you were a member of Miles and More and if you had a Lufthansa ticket we get revenue for, may be there was something I could do, but in this case I can’t.”

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“I could not believe this type of response and asked nicely: “May I have your name?””

Escalated it to personal vs policy too quickly. Why not ask for a supervisor rather than her name. Or head off to the lounge for help.

The world of ticket stock not matching the carrier your own is an unfortunate source of needless frustration.

erinn ma

I flew with Lufthansa for over 20 years; no more. After a terrible experience, based on a mistake by Lufthansa, and having to fight for a refund, I will take my business elsewhere.

Chris

Thanks for sharing the experience. I agree that this is a sign of Lufthansa losing its way, but also a sign of the decline of the service industry in Germany in general. It also does not help that Germany has not been known for good customer service to start with.
Anyway, this brings back memories I had a similar situation in Frankfurt maybe 7 years back, at that exact counter in the z-terminal. The agent told me that technically she was not allowed to rebook me, but she made an exception and got me on the way. It would have been nice if your agent had done the same, or at least not been so rude. Speaking of rude, a couple of recent incidents where Lufthansa gate personell was obsessed with enforcing the carry-on weight limits (I am sure your have seen then running around with a scale in the gate area) turned me completely off and I swore never to fly them again. Yes, I know there are rules about weight and size limits, but practically speaking it is almost impossible to overload the overhead bins, so what is all the fuss about and why does not other airline do this?
Regarding some of the comments on United, I have experienced their customer service as generally very good, especially if you have a good frequent flyer status. But as with any airline, if you fly enough, you can have a bad experience, and United is no exception. I also agree that their new Polaris class is better than any other transatlantic business class I have experienced, definitely much better than Lufthansa, which I think is the only other choice to go directly to Frankfurt from the US.

Smita Katariya

I have had my share of horror stories with Lufthansa and have stopped flying them. I will fly any other star alliance airline but Lufthansa….thabks for sharing your story, it only supports my decision :).

Jimbo

Maybe they’re still angry about losing the war.

Dennis Moody

About 8 years ago, my wife and I missed an announcement for a gate change and missed our flight from FRA to LAX. Nobody would help us. I was 1K with United at the time. As we had to return that day, I had to buy two new tickets for $7000!! I was sure I’d be refunded after we got home and got it sorted with Lufthansa. But no. I never saw a penny and was treated very rudely by every Lufthansa agent I tried to get to help us. I will never fly them again unless absolutely necessary due to routing. Terrible service!

Patrick

In my experience Lufthansa which used to be a premier airline has declined significantly. It is now only half a strep above any budget (cattle car) airline.

Sad to see, but I now avoid Lufthansa whenever possible.

Alex Silva

United Polaris one of the best transatlantic business classes? Are you joking? What other airlines have you been using? Egypt Air? Trans-Siberia? Latam? JetBlue?

It’s clear that you are not a frequent traveller, and have no knowledge of the subject.
And yes I tried to do the same thing you did in Brussels, and the very nice girl from Lufthansa tried everything she could, including making phone calls to supervisors to try to change my ticket, she just couldn’t do it. It had to be done by United. And I was flying first class….

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